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“RMT vs. Subscription” Is A Dirty Word!

Posted in Shameless Rants with tags , , , on November 8, 2009 by howtoloseyourlifetoanmmorpg

How’s come everytime I see a post arguing some point about RMT, it makes me feel unclean.  It’s like entering an old port-a-potty that’s been used but never cleaned.

The problem is it blurs the very fine line between being legitimate concerns and just being a shallow fanboy civil war.

Some tip offs to me is how explicit people try to be, and throw in a ton of opinions based on some conjecture that a more legitimate(?) site made.

a lot of it is based on personal taste. Some want to add a set number on value, so they can compare it. I don’t know why. Maybe it’s like the people who obsess over console game ratings, then when one site rates it significantly lower than most sites, they jump all over that site with flames. Even though the point is just to give you an idea if you’d like it or not. When most of the information is really coming from the player not the review they read, because who else knows what they like and how much they like it better than the player?  Yet they bash that lone reviewer who gave a bad review while the others made a game shine. I think it’s because they need to have validation to say they should like it, instead of actually seeing if they like it by playing it.

I sometimes wonder who these “proponents” of one side-vs.-the other side are arguing against: Others or themselves. Because they want to try to legitimize a reason to like it through arbitrary made up value markers instead of just sitting down, playing it and saying “Hey, I like this”.

You want to argue over a pet panda for 10 bucks or a riding mount that costs ten bucks, then expand that to fit into an already deluded vision of this RMT vs. Sub argument.

You know some will say “That cat isn’t worth 4 bucks but the panda, I’d pay 20 for it”. Some will change their minds down the road. There’s too many feelings and variables of life to consider.

On a side note: I am a bit distraught about this RMT vs. Sub thing. I mean it basically started for a stupid reason and kept going(In my opinion).

This whole thing is just opinions.  It’s all opinions.  Remember everyone has opinions.  But every once in awhile we find a cause to latch onto and join a side and for what reason?  PS3 or Wii? Join a side.  PSP or DS? Pick a side.

Many people against RMT, I believe are ones who actually find value in paying, that’s why they don’t like it.  They “believe” they have to pay to have fun.

People want to create a microcosm so they can compare RMT vs. Sub but the real truth is, money you spend on clothes and mountain dew and posters, and internet, and a slew of things is just as legitimate reasons to consider as anything else. You are spending money for your enjoyment of it.

This isn’t something new. Most things in life have been done before, maybe just behind a slightly different mask. The US deals with capitalism. That’s what this is a part of, just like when the PS3 and Wii first came out.

I don’t find anything overly offensive about talking about it, but 99% of every argument I saw on RMT vs. Sub contained a persons feelings or opinions which destroy it right then and there. You can’t eat your cake and have it too. If you want to argue some universal value, then you’re going to have to separate that from your unique personal feelings and opinions, even if some share them with you.

I play Runes of Magic, I love the game, I’ve come to appreciate certain subtleties in it that boost my enjoyment of it over WoW and some other games. I still like WoW, but I’d rather plop 10 bucks on a mount in Runes of Magic right now, than on a pet in WoW. But maybe after some time goes by and I have more money again, I’ll go back to WoW and say “Well it wasn’t worth it to me back then because I was deriving my fun in different ways, but now it’s worth it”.

This huge comment isn’t to say I don’t have my own opinions on how some games or companies handle RMT. I do. For instance, I used to play Shaiya and really liked it. However I thought that the fact that a game based so heavily around mass PvP maps only sold temporary strength boosters in cash shop was a bit, well unfair. It’s a very clear line in that game that shows you if you want to win in PvP, you’ll need to buy those items. But even then I bet some people feel differently, and I can’t argue it. Maybe some go into the PvP maps at certain times, or have learned a little finesse, and get by, raise their rank, and win rewards just fine? I think it’s possible.

Most of my arguments against RMT stay limited within the world of one game at a time. I like to compare the prices of RMT not to other games cash shops, but to the games themselves and the fun I can get out of them.

You like to argue other points? that’s fine, but you too easily cross that blurry thin line into an area that assumes I share opinions or get the same value out of something as others.

You’re allowed to have different opinions but you’re not allowed to speak for the rest of us.

So if you want to talk to me about it, that’s fine, just try to base it on opinions that I share, and we’ll have a terrific discussion:P

To bring this (possibly) never ending rant to some sort of finish, I just want to note some things that I and some of my best friends enjoy in different MMORPG’s.

  • I like the joy of hunting down vanity pets in WoW, my friends would just laugh and make fun of me.
  • I think paying $10 bucks for a mount in Runes of Magic is worth it for the speed you get.  I can get places a lot faster, and I can get stuff done sooner once I’m at those places.  I don’t like paying more than $1 for a box of Mac ‘N Cheese(okay so I strayed a bit).
  • I think $15/month for a MMORPG is fine.  In my opinion, the cost you really pay to play these games isn’t in money LOL.
  • My one friend wanted to do nothing but questing, while another wanted nothing but raiding.  Any patches that interfered had one griping while the other one couldn’t care less.
  • I have two friends that became two of the best characters on their server, in RoM, without spending a single real cent.  They both had tons of fun, and I think they probably had a little more fun knowing they tromped people who were dumping money into the game;)
  • I don’t subscibe to the RMT debate at all.  I currently haven’t payed in a year of playing RoM, but I may because my game time is significantly shorter now than it was when I started.
  • I think RoM has one of the best(if not the best) balance between game play and cash shop.   I can buy diamonds in game to spend in cash shop, and I can do it while having fun.  I can gather for about 30 minutes and have enough mats to buy a diamond, plus my gathering skill gets raised, and I can relax as opposed to a raid or boss, and talk to people too.  The cash shop does not sell anything that cannot be obtained in-game except the permanent mounts and some house furniture, which you can still obtain diamonds for in-game.  But the cash shop only sells items that speed up your game play time.  50% gained EXP for an hour-potions, etc…   The subtle difference I like is that other games do let you buy cash shop items with in-game money, but it’s usually very heavily waited.  Shaiya takes a very very long time to earn money through fighting(like months), while one little potion from cash shop will cost you MILLIONS.  In RoM I could earn enough diamonds through the auction house within a day or two(depending on how long I play) to buy a potion, or a chair, etc…

In the end, this is just my opinions, so like it or leave it, but I care not for ones who want to sit there and flatly tell me why RMT is bad.

Whew, okay I’m done ranting.  Sorry, in the real end, I guess my inner fanboy wanted to come out and bare his tiny little teeth.


Runes of Magic Not Flashy Enough For Ya?

Posted in General, Picture Perfect, Shameless Rants on November 3, 2009 by howtoloseyourlifetoanmmorpg

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I saw this while browsing on Xfire.  It reminded me of a few people who thought RoM was too bland.  One referenced 2Moons to me while saying they loved “flashy” attacks and armor.  Well I must admit that 2Moons is pretty flashy and colorful.  Heck graphically the characters are pretty cool.  But RoM is not without it’s flash and graphics.

Is it really just coincidence?

Posted in Shameless Rants with tags , , on July 2, 2009 by howtoloseyourlifetoanmmorpg

I made a semi-funny post on another blog about how I thought it was almost more of a coincidence that Massively always seemed to have a post almost identical in nature to one of mine, within a day after I post mine.

Today, is yet another one of these “coincidences”.

I just finished putting together a big article on evolutionary changes in the MMO genre, and what do ya know? Massively posted a very similar piece.

If it is more than coincidence, then I suppose I should be flattered.

It sill is just a bit weird, this is the third time this month.

The Anti Anti-RMT Movement

Posted in Shameless Rants with tags , on June 30, 2009 by howtoloseyourlifetoanmmorpg

Last night I started thinking about RMT and how many people seem to dislike it.  After doing no research I came up with a theory.

The anti-RMT(real money transaction) movement seems to be made up predominantly of younger players.  These teens and tweens, on the surface, argue a lot of false logic to try and draw lines in the MMORPG sand to denote what’s fair and what’s not- with RMT usually on the unfair side.

What’s fair in an MMORPG?

I would think if you can do it, it’s fair- in regards to how the game was built.  Any hacking, cracking or general code tomfoolery would be a no-no of epic-fail proportions.

for some fair examples off the top of my noggin’

  • Playing 12 hours a day.
  • having a guild at level cap power level you to level cap in a week and give you 10,000 gold and the best gear in the game.
  • Finding a player much lower in PvP skill than you and camping them to generate oodles of reputation points.

Get the idea?

It’s very hard to find a focal point for determining fairness in large persistent virtual worlds.  Everyone has different amounts of time, skill, friends, and so forth.  There’s practically thousands of reasons that could effect outcomes.

  • Player A may be able to do the first 5 quests in five minutes
  • Player B may take 5 hours to do those same quests
  • Player C may do the first 2 quests then go PvP then fishing, or crafting, before going back to questing
  • Player D may spend 3 hours just chatting with friends

There’s surely not enough letters in the alphabet to cover all the different scenarios that could occur, and it’s foolish and illogical to try to quantify the near infinite amount of possible outcomes.

A common argument for anti-RMT’ers is time.  They try to make it sound almost as though the non-payer is some nobel person who chooses the hard route to some MMORPG enlightenment, but we know that isn’t true per the reasons I’ve already listed.

In a nutshell:

These anti-RMT’ers are achievement junkies and although they cry the unfairness route of payers, they are jealous.  They care about it because they feel payers are achieving something they are not, and they are trying desparately to concoct scenarios to remove these achievements(that only they are jealous of).


I’ve only ever payed once in my F2P career.  I paid $50 on Shaiya last Christmas to give Cash Shop items to my fellow guild officers and some of the more regular guild players, and kept a few for myself.  I’ve been playing Runes of Magic for 3 months and never spent anything…yet:)

Percieved Perceptions

Posted in Shameless Rants with tags , , , , , on June 17, 2009 by howtoloseyourlifetoanmmorpg

I was perusing the Runes of Magic forums, and today, among others but especially today, it was so depressing.  RoM is obviously and by far the best Free-to-Play MMORPG on the market right now.  It’s down right revolutionary.

Of course it is using an Item Mall to make money but even it is well made, offering only items that speed up progress within the game and not allowing spenders to obtain anything that cannot be obtained strictly in-game.

Even still, the forums are as plagued, and in some cases more, by people bashing the devs as money grubbing idiots, and how stupid the Item Mall is, and a long list of other complaints.  I know you have this in any game, but how great the game is added with my personal love of it, has me feeling a more personal sting this time around from the negative community.

A big part of it is always the assumption card.  People make fun of the word assume because it is such an old cliche but it will be around until the end of time, because although people ridicule it as an old passe adage, it is the most succint and relevant way to describe the reoccuring situations.

People are forgetting fun for fun’s sake and trying to label it for you and I.

Don’t try to tell me what I like or don’t like, okay? Okay!

People want to try and attach an arbitrary number on the amount of things you can do in the game to how much fun can be derived from that game.

People.  You can spend 100 hours picking your nose and have more fun than the guy who spent that same 100 hours playing WoW, EQ2, Vanguard, and every other MMO in one long session!

I am refering directly to the crafting aspect of RoM.  People are bashing it as simple, pathetic, broken and usually the “excuse“- Yes, I use the word excuse because that’s all it is, that it takes too long to gather or you don’t get what you put into it.  On the surface this is true, but like Mystic World’s said

  • [paraphrase]I don’t know where the time went.  I know I was doing something and having a lot of fun doing it, but I don’t seem to have accomplished anything.  My brain wants to play bad-cop and say I should be getting more out of the game to have fun, but the truth is, it doesn’t matter because…I had a lot of fun.

That is the truth, the reality of it.  Let’s stop comparing to every MMO that’s come out before RoM and see what is giving us a fun time.

I’ve spent hours just “click-click-clicking” to gather, but at the end of the day, I pass out in front of my PC with a smile on my face, and have to be honest with myself-no lying allowed, I had a lot of fun.

“It’s not worth crafting, because the mats cost more than the finished product that uses the same mats.” Yeah, maybe so what?  Did you have fun?  Because that’s why your playing…ISN’T IT???

As a side note: I totally understand the analytical report, I read, on WoW now that said ‘40% of WoW players don’t play because they have fun’.

Unfortunately this will fall on def ears.  These same nay-sayers are the ones who can’t swallow their pride.  They feel threatened and want to win the argument for the sake of winning the argument, not learning and growing, and figuring out how to make life easier for themselves and find more fun and happiness in games and the world.

I love talking about what can make a game more fun or developing a “better” system, but don’t try to boil your ‘failure to have fun‘ down to something that obviously is only your perceptions that it’s the games responsibility to “give” you that fun.  If you aren’t having fun with the way RoM’s current crafting system is, then don’t do it.  If that leads you to having less fun than you think you could be having elsewhere, then leave the game and find a better experience for yourself-it’s up to you.  But these players are always still around, which leads me to believe you are still playing RoM for a reason?  So what is it? that you are having fun? or that your too stupid to know whether you are having fun or not?  If it’s the former, then why isn’t that reflected in your community involvement, instead we hear unapologetic whining and screaming and calling other people names?  Your extreme complaining does not seem to accurately reflect(not even closely) how you feel about your gaming experience, so most experienced/older/more learned players are just going to ignore you(and that would probably include the developers).

So forgive me if I care less about your comments that say “Actually, I really don’t like this or that” or any variant of that sentence.  Perhaps that will be closed minded of me and I’ll just be doing what all of the negative complainers are doing, but it’s my blog and I’ll cry if I want to, cry if I want to.